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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Dec 10, 2006 2:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish consistency?

All right dude, pick one show here, post 1977.

Extended free-form jamming, no Branford either.

You have one shot.
I will spark up some G13, open a Kronenborg, and stream it right now. If you can blow my mind, I will admit I'm wrong...

Not that I truly care, but as a friend, I hope your penile enlargement surgery went OK

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 10, 2006 3:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish consistency?

i'm not trying to get you to admit you are wrong - you said the band sucked post 77 - therefore you are by default wrong - sorry for trying to cut the ice my mistake.

still got my kids and don't have the time right now - by the way - full show free form jamming in 70 and 71???? hmmmm - i must have missed something in downloading those years. pretty cookie cutter at times in first sets - lots of second set free form jams in later years as well especially 81 post he's gone jams (often times labeles as caution jams)

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Dec 10, 2006 3:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish consistency?

I'm sorry, you were so rabid the other night, I had to sneak one last one in!

I'm not expecting jamming from start to finish. Maybe its just 3-4 minutes (better 20) of mind bending music?

Make me get up off the couch and jump around the living room the way the Masons Children from 12/28/69 does.
Or blow my mind with a jammy Dark Star like 10/31/71?
Astonish me with something jazzy like 9/28/75 or even better 3/29/68...

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 10, 2006 4:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish consistency?

i'll work on it man - gotta give me more than tonite man - got kids then dallas/new orleans - priortities - you know - there is much out there (me rabbid????? - you must have the wrong person - lol)


mind bending jammy dark star like 10/31/71 is gonna be tough to beat since that is one of my favs - talk about a phonomenal segue into sugar mag - almost impossible to beat!!!!

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Dec 10, 2006 4:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish consistency?

Take your time, Cliff has to get up early tommorow anyway.

Streaming Flow's pick right now 10/12/68

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 10, 2006 4:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish consistency?

k - playin DS > SugMag as i write - love this one.

will think and get back to you - have a good nite

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Dec 10, 2006 5:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish consistency?

You also.

Cliff remains ready to be enlightened...

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Dec 10, 2006 8:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish consistency?

Ok right here Cliff - the 10/31/91 Dark Star with the Kesey Rap. Check it out, as dark and twisted as they EVER did

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Poster: mcglone Date: Dec 10, 2006 3:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish consistency?

space surely defines free form jamming. each and every member adding to the potluck.

one specific example of a big jam from a tune, 12-26-79' estimated. lot's of shit going on.

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Poster: mcglone Date: Dec 10, 2006 4:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish consistency?

hey cliff,

first off, i respect your opinion and i know your addressing dire, so i apologize for butting in, but... i had to go with the dictionary card. how doesn't 'space' fall into your definition of free form?

free form
–noun
1. a shape having an irregular contour, chiefly used in nonrepresentational art and industrial design.
2. Linguistics. a linguistic form that can occur by itself, as fire, book, or run.
Compare bound form.


[Origin: 1945–50]
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) - Cite This Source
free-form [adj. free-fawrm; adv. free-fawrm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. characterized by free form: free-form sculpture.
2. not organized or planned in a conventional way: a free-form international conglomerate.
3. encouraged to function or evolve without advance planning; spontaneous: free-form management.
–adverb
4. without restrictions or preconceptions: The children were allowed to paint free-form.
5. GOGD space



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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 10, 2006 5:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish consistency?

butt in as you wish my friend - glad i'm not alone on this one :)

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Dec 10, 2006 5:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish consistency?

Never implied it didnt.
Trouble is, Space usually doesnt quite gel into the real deal often enough...one exception 6/28/74...

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Poster: mcglone Date: Dec 10, 2006 5:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish consistency?

i read your post as asking for ONE example of post 77' "Extended free-form jamming" - i give you space, zits and all.

i understand you're calling it a night and i'm getting ready to do a shot everytime nbc goes to the john cougar spot, 'this is our country'. should be nicely toasted by 8:45pm. hope you had luck fishing today.

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Poster: north bound train Date: Dec 10, 2006 6:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish consistency?

mcglone --

Its 9:13pm EST, and you should completely inebriated by now.

I'm relieved to learn I'm not the only one who wants to reach for a bottle, at least the mute button, every time that commercial plays.

Its no wonder GM is spewing cash. I just don't understand how that song will make people flock to the dealers to buy a Chevy. They can't even give them away.

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Poster: mcglone Date: Dec 10, 2006 6:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish consistency?

just trying to figure out which lampshade best suits my spirits.

never did i think the day would come when i longed for 'like a rock'.

ian

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Poster: high flow Date: Dec 10, 2006 3:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish consistency?

I really hope somebody has a good suggestion.

Truly free-form shows, where each song has a chance of'lift-off' really don't exsist after '69. By '71 the sets were very structured. There are exceptions, but one cannot argue the fact that ALL the 1st sets were made up of songs, not jams. So, good luck...

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Dec 10, 2006 3:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish consistency?

Actually, I figured that out, all by myself, after attending 80+ shows between 1979-1990.

The band may have become more song oriented but there's till some phenomenal jamming in 1971, right now streaming 8/6/71.

But who are you trying to convince? I am in full agreement with you...

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Poster: high flow Date: Dec 10, 2006 3:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish consistency?

I'm acknowledging the difficult nature of your challenge. Yes, there is SOME free-form jamming in every show. But.....the big but. You know all about it....the older stuff has that wild feel to it. Unconstrained....unending...kinetic...

10/12/68 playing here now.....

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Dec 10, 2006 3:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish consistency?

Keep talking like that, you're getting Cliff excited!

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 10, 2006 3:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish consistency?

and i thought it was only the guppies that did that ;)

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